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Trips are great ONLY if she's your girlfriend - if you go on a trip before you two are in a relationship then it can hurt your cause.  Check out the article below and...

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*75:  When she's playing hard to get it means she's IMPOSSIBLE to get (for you)

*76:  He wasted WAY TOO MUCH TIME on a woman that was never going to be with him



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Hey Doc,

I’m 33 years young. Every night I listen to seven chapters of “The System.” I also listen faithfully to your radio show. You stated on the show that incoming group dates should be accepted, because anything incoming trumps the “no group dates” rule in your book. Does the same hold for incoming trip requests? I’m asking because I am seeing Kelly, who is 29 years young. We’re eight dates in (although she’s not hinting that she wants me to be the boyfriend yet) and she invited me on two upcoming trips.

The first trip is a four-day cruise (her friend dropped out so she invited me to take the spot before inviting one of her other friends), and the second is a four-day trip down in San Diego. She would be paying her half of the expenses and we’d be sharing a room in both cases.

I had thought that these invitations might be hints that she wanted me to be her boyfriend. But she said that this wasn’t her taking the next step with me (“We’re still building towards a relationship,” was the way she put it), but that she thought it would be fun to go with me on the trips. I’m actually out of the state for work on both occasions, so I expressed my regrets that I wouldn’t be able to go and countered with a date request for each, following “The System” rules.

However, assuming I wasn’t stuck on work assignments, should I have accepted her incoming invitations for these overnight trips? I had thought it was a pretty clear rule in your book to not do that (and I’d be uncomfortable sharing a room with Kelly before we became boyfriend/girlfriend), but thought I would ask you if the incoming date rule trumped the no trips rule.

This situation seems a little weird to me, so I’m treating it as a minor Red Flag since Kelly and I aren’t boyfriend/girlfriend yet. But I’m also flattered that she is comfortable enough with me to invite me along on these excursions.

Wes - who likes to keep to the rules

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Hi Wes,

It’s great that you’re reading my book and listening to my show. You have to eat, sleep and dream “The System,” and when you belong to the Doc Love Club, you have access to HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF AUDIO THAT GO BACK TO 2011 - AND I ADD NEW CONTENT WEEKLY. You need to listen to two or three of those per week. And when you do, you are accessing material from men around the world. Just last week alone I had callers from Greece and the Sudan.

Does an incoming trip invitation trump the no trips rule? Only if she’s your girlfriend. She has to ask you to be the boyfriend first, then she can take you on a trip. There is an order in the progression of events that has to observed. If Kelly asked you on a trip before she asked you to be her boyfriend, then she’s following the wrong order. She needs to ask you, “Are you seeing anyone else” first, which is Womanese for “I want to be your girlfriend.” To repeat, Kelly has the order of business mixed up.

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